From Dissertation to Publication

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Elisa D’Amico Alright, great, that's where we need to be. Okay, so I'm gonna get started. Just for a frame of reference, I'm several years out of my PhD right now. I have been… I have done this thing where I've transitioned some of my… one of my chapters to a standalone journal article. I'm from an American institution, so the article route is much more common. But having lived in the UK and Europe, the book manuscript route, and at least in my field, is

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Elisa D’Amico We can talk about all of that. And also, I'm glad that Kasia's here, because Kasia has a lot of other insight on, similarly, how this process goes, at our career phase, and also has some experience editing books as well, so… Sorry, I always, like, call on Kasia, but she has lots of valuable thoughts and advice as well. Okay, so… like, I guess there's, like, two routes that people often take, and they normally sort of live in isolation. A lot of people that do, like, a free articles for your dissertation route only will do the three articles, and they won't ever really plan on making it to a book. You are making it into a book instead, you don't have to do articles, but it's more common that somebody will do at least one article to sort of advertise for the book.

Elisa D’Amico We're also going to talk about where to publish. This is… we've talked more about this in other sessions, but we'll talk just briefly about that. the conversion part, like, how to do it, at what phase to do it, like, the sort of, like, tips and tricks there. And then we'll talk a little bit more in detail about the book route, because I feel like we talk a lot about the publication and article route, and we've had other sessions on it, but less so for the book. And I'm sort of, like, in the thick of that process right now myself. Okay. So… Which should you do, like, especially if you're in the early phases of this part of your career, or if you're still, like, starting the dissertation or in the proposal phase? like, it doesn't really… and Kasia can also provide input on this, but there's not really a right answer. I mean, like, technically, in my field, with my background and being, like, quantitative, it would have made more sense for me to do, like, traditional, like, three quantitative articles route, but I ended up, for a variety of reasons, not doing that, doing something a little bit more mixed methods and book names for that.

Elisa D’Amico But that actually ended up serving me really well, because I moved over… away from the U.S. and into this system where management's so much more valuable. So what your project and research question are, what your methods are, and then the norms of your field or subfields, like in political science or… And, like, geographical location you're based out of, or where you want to get a job, all of these things matter a bit. But you can't really, really go wrong either way. for the, like… like, research question types, like, is the dissertation, like, one… like, one sustained argument that you need to pack a lot into, and you need to build on, build on, build on, to sort of, like, get to the empirics at the end, and then, like, this… this looks more like a book? Or is it, like.

Elisa D’Amico a bunch of standalone contributions in a broader research topic, but sort of each of these contributions can sort of exist in isolation, more or less without, like, relying so heavily on, like. this, like, long narrative throughout them all. That looks more like an article-based dissertation. I mean, if you want a job in the U.S, it's okay to have a book. I remember seeing lots of job talks come to my university as a PhD student, where, like, some of them did have book manuscripts, not just articles, as their dissertation format, and that was fine. Articles are just a lot more common. I don't… I mean, outside of the US, in the UK, I know that Books are very, very valued. In some institutions, other institutions are, like, very happy for our locals as well. Again, I think that five publications in either is… kind of works.

Elisa D’Amico And then, I kind of already talked about this geography, and then the timing of it is important as well, because… you want publications out, and some book projects are gonna be, like, excellent-selling books. They're gonna, like, these dissertations are gonna be, like, very foundational, and, like, have a very far reach, but like, book manuscripts like that are gonna take a while in the pipeline before they're out, so the publication route is more, like, shorter-term goals, so I would recommend that you at least, if you do take the book route, you try to publish at least one chapter as a standalone thing, or have, like, strong, independent research, That you can push out, like, in tandem, and ideally suited in the book, just for job market reasons. So this qualitative versus quantitative thing, it isn't like a… Is it, like, a surefire thing?

Elisa D’Amico to be separated this way. But often qualitative work, or more interpretive work, works well as a book. And because there's a lot of really strong context, there's a narrative, and it needs that sort of space to, like, flesh out the whole argument. I think Kasia would probably be able to speak to this as well, although her work also suits articles. But there is, like, this comparative historical, like, buildup that just reads much better as a monograph. Rather than, like, a super tight, like, enclosed, research question, evidence, implications sort of journal article route that quantitative scholars often would take, especially if your quantitative research has things like survey experiments. Because the empirical, like, results, they can work together really nicely, but, I mean, oftentimes, like, the book readership isn't people that want to, like, read a bunch of, like, tables and numbers and quantitative results as well. They want, like, the substantive narrative format, so… The quantitative work can be… Sometimes more well-suited to, like, these more, like, tight standalone journal articles, which has the luxury, maybe, of not being more widely read by, like, a broader community, or is, like, foundational to maybe, like, junior scholars in that way, but as the reward of being able to be pushed out a little bit faster than a book.

Elisa D’Amico Mixed methods projects often do both. Like I said, my project is… I guess my book project is quite mixed methods. There's only… two quantitative chapters, one I still need to write, And so, like, it's completely common, and I know I have friends that are editors at Oxford University Press, and they say that they like to have chapters, the publisher's articles. I am part of a different book project where we have a chapter in a good journal that's published both in the book manuscript and as in an article, like, this is very common to do both. I'm saying that same thing up here. And I… like I already said, a lot of times they like to see the article as an advert for one of the chapters of a book to show that you can… it has gone under this rigorous peer review and it's a good contribution.

Elisa D’Amico Of course, you don't want the article and the chapter to look exactly alike, so spin-off pieces are… normally how it looks, like, the absolute surgery that I had to do to get my… dissertation chapter into a standalone journal article was crazy. It doesn't even remotely look like the same chapter anymore, and doesn't have the same implications, contribution, anything. Just quite similar in appearance. the only thing to, like, be very, very careful of is the figure… the copyrights around the figures and the plots that you show. You might just want to, like, tweak them a bit. And the editor, of course, will help you with this. So, where to publish? We've talked a lot about this for articles already, So I'm not going to talk too much about that, but, like, the top 3 general journals are long shots for even, like, quite advanced scholars that have friends that are editors. Like, these are hard to get into, and of course, we all want to land there, but it's maybe not realistic for, you know, one of your earlier like, works as a scholar, although they absolutely could.

Elisa D’Amico But it… the solo-authored early work often lands really well in good subfield journals, and there are many of them. So, like, in my field. We have, like, Environmental Politics, Journal of Peace Research. These are all excellent, extremely well-respected journals, that are in the subfields, and depending on your type of research, they might be helpful. Like, they might be… Sometimes for general journals, like, we'll just push you towards those subfield journals anyway. Of course, obviously, just, like, rule of thumb, look at your citation list. Who are you citing? That's where… that's the body of literature you're speaking to, these are the places you should send it. Be mindful of the desk rejection rates and the turnaround times. Sometimes really, really good journals have some editorial or administrative, like, issues, and, like, they won't come back to you for, like.

Elisa D’Amico Like, months when previously they would take days, so, like, if you want us to try to stay current on That sort of thing, and just keep really good track of where you're sending things out so that you can pull it if need be, if these processes are going crazy. for dissertations. you don't need to have co-authors for your dissertation papers, but you can. I know at UCD, in my department, a supervisor has to co-author one of the student… one of their PhD students. dissertation chapters with them to sort of, like, show them the ropes. This is not the case everywhere. A lot of times it does end up being on your own, but it actually looks quite good if it is on your own. And then, avoid the predatory and pay-to-publish outlets. So this will especially ramp up around conference season, when you'll get… I mean, I've been getting this. It used to be much more like book publishers, but I've been getting it from somewhat predatory, like, journals as well now, where they're like, publish in our special issue, do you want to have a meeting during APSA, or ISA versus, like, you'll see really frequently them doing this. The, various book publishers doing this. Like, want to set up a meeting? I've had friends take these meetings before, and it is just, like, a very much, like, a pay-to-publish.

Elisa D’Amico situation, like, you're not getting a good deal, you're not gonna have good reach, and you want to avoid these sort of predatory outlets, for sure. We'll talk a little bit more about other outlets right now, I guess. So, some folks… Kind of the rule of thumb here is that you aren't… your first choice is to be an academic or a university press. This is not something that I knew coming out of the PhD until I had some mentors sort of explain this to me. Especially if it's your first book, apparently, and you don't have this, like, yet renowned, like, notoriety as a senior scholar. It also is a trade-off with how quickly we want it published, too, though, right? Because if it's a really important topic, people are going to want to read it sooner rather than later, and there's, like, there's advantages to getting things pushed out in a time when the topic is still quite timely.

Elisa D’Amico this is, like, another peer review situation. I have had my book under peer review with both Oxford University Press and Cambridge University Press. I follow the city's typical format that I can tell you about. I've also met with editors from University Press. And also find the series editors, because they will be more… they will be looking for research like yours. So there's, like, lots of… I mean, do a lot of climate stuff, there's lots of, like, environment-related editors of series at these, not journals, publishers, and this is who you should latch onto if your, research topic is a natural fit. There's some commercial… Like, academic adjacent? presses that… or presses that publish academic work that are good as well, like Palgrave, Macmillan, Routledge, and Bloomsbury, these you will see at tables, like, in conferences, they will be there. And so they are also peer-reviewed, slightly less selective, so if you're doing this book for, like, promotion or one of these things, again, for the first book, this is maybe, like, a good fallback, next to the preference for academic presses, but completely fine as well. So… The articles… we've kind of talked about this before, so again, I'll try to be quick. Like, you… so you submit to one journal article at a time, it goes through the desk, the editor's desk, the editor screens it.

Elisa D’Amico to see if it's worth sending out to the reviewers for a lot of reasons. This normally happens pretty fast, so, like, a lot of the journals in political science, at least, and in the more natural sciences, it happens like, within a week, like, 5 to 10 days. If they do send it out, we'll have, like, normally 2 to 3 anonymous reviewers in the social sciences, and then, like, up to 5 in, like, the natural sciences. I just had 5 reviewers from a nature journal recently. And then, what happens is that either the desk reject it, or the reviewers will reject it, or the reviewers will give you an R&R. Sometimes they just accept it, but that rarely ever happens, in my personal experience. An R&R, you have to do the revisions they make, you can push back against them, of course, but then you also have to write a standalone response memo that maps out the revisions, especially if it's a larger R&R, which is often what I'm getting.

Elisa D’Amico I would say that it's… could be under review up to 3 months, and, like, to go back and forth through the desk and all of this, like, it could be up to 3 to 6 months. And then, probably from, like, say I submit it to the journal, it's gonna end up maybe, like, a year for all the R&Rs to come back, and to go back under review, and all of these things to happen before. I think Kasia has some, like, maybe a bit of a different experience. I think sometimes it can go quicker, and that the… there's different… Periods of time placed on these different… parts. Like, I think that hers was with the desk for longer, but then the other parts went a lot quicker. So, this is just sort of an estimate. And then for books.

Elisa D’Amico You need a really, really good book proposal. Oxford University Press has a template for this, and Everybody, no matter where they're sending it, should follow that, like, to appease. And… You're gonna want at least some sample chapters or the entire manuscript to be sent to the… to be ready to send to the editor. Don't just saturate a bunch of editors' inboxes with your whole everything. Give them, like, a super pissy email. You can attach your proposal, and then be like, I'd be willing to send some sample chapters, or the full manuscript if you're interested. Keep the email itself tight, because they read over a lot of those. But then if the editor likes it, they're gonna send it out to their expert readers, these are their reviewers. You might get, like, two to four reports from them.

Elisa D’Amico Similar to how journal reviewers work, I think I got, like, two, and then… 3 or 4… 2 from OUP, and 3 years. I think 3 from CUP. So you write a revision memo as well. This is something I didn't know that you did. I guess I knew it from being on another project, whatever. But you write a revision memo too, but whereas in the article, you both do the actual revisions and write the revision memo, in the bookcase, you just write the revision memo that tells you what you're going to do. Like. outlines what you're pushing back against on what you're gonna do differently. Like, I… gave them, like, a red version of my proposal with all of these changes, but just the proposal. I didn't go and, like, revise the chapters. I did go back and make sure that some of the requests they made were completely feasible. I did do some surgery to the proposal, though, and revise that, and then wrote up a big revision memo of all of the other stuff I'm gonna do in the organization.

Elisa D’Amico everything like that. But again, you don't have to fully execute it, but you do need to know that it's executable. And then the editor takes this full package to the press board.

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Elisa D’Amico And these can take a long time, so I think that I sent… This editor sent my book out for review. we'll send two chapters out for review with the proposal. I think in November got me back them by, like, April, early April. I didn't get revisions back to them until, like, June. desired. like I said, I did some surgery on it. I didn't, like, I did kind of a big revision, And then, yeah, so it's been some months now, and I might not even get this contract, but we'll see. Comparative? chapter to article situation. This depends on how you wrote the dissertation. I did not do it this way, so most people that are writing, like, a three-paper dissertation will kind of just write it as a standalone article first, write all three of them as a standalone article.

Elisa D’Amico And then they'll slap, like, an intro and conclusion on the back of it, or maybe revise the intro and inclusion in the individual chapters, articles, a little bit, and then, like, send it, and that's a lot easier of a way of doing it. I did the… like, monograph-style dissertation, and it was so hard for me to convert the one empirical chapter to a standalone journal article that way. It was also, like, my first solo-authored publication, and I'm… Like, I had a really hard time stripping out all of the meat from the dissertation that did not stand alone in that empirical chapter. And so, like, I think it ended up being about, like, urban migration and, like, price shocks in Bangladesh, whereas, like, my broader dissertation was all about, like, climate-related mobility and movement and, like, environmental pressures. I dropped almost all of the environmental stuff because it just not holding them.

Elisa D’Amico with the… in the context of the standalone empirics, it was, like, something that was, like, a through-line of the whole book project, so that was hard for me. but doable. I would kind of… yeah, just work in reverse. I had sent it to, like, quite a few journalists and got really good feedback from editors and reviewers before it was, like, in a published in both states. it's… it really shouldn't be a shortened chapter, and I think that's what I was originally trying to do. It needs to be, like, quite a rewritten thing. You might need to rebuild the whole literature. Again, picking one contribution, like, I had no climate change contributions in mind anymore. It was just about, like, this… These pathways in, like, the… A very, like, political economy type context. You gotta obviously clean up your references to other chapters and shrink it like crazy. I had so many completely unnecessary paragraphs that were meaningful for my dissertation, but not at all for a journal article that I just scrapped entirely, and then… You have done this thing where you have given your committee what they wanted while they had the mind of, like, the full piece.

Elisa D’Amico Unlike your four pieces, but in this case, you're gonna wanna reframe it for something that's, like, tight and fifthy, and that, like, reviewers will want to see, rather than you. Yeah, I mean, I would write an abstract before revising, make sure that every component is actually… of your empirics is actually in there, and get that really tidy it's not gonna be probably a problem that it was from a dissertation at all, so just be mindful of that, but normally it's a non-issue. method sections and data descriptions are kind of, like, fine to kind of, like, completely slot in, but, like, I had to do some really serious reframing. having a non-member of your committee look at it is probably also a really good idea, especially somebody that's not familiar with your research, and… and, like, really look at it in isolation and be like, why are you talking about the environment here when there's no environmental piece to your next? And then… an R&R… we'll take it even away. Like, you're gonna lose your original goal of your contribution, probably, for, like, the broader book project entirely, but that's fine, because it's gonna be, like, your single standalone publication win, and we want those to… Let me step up.

Elisa D’Amico So, a dissertation is… so, a dissertation is not yet a book. I'll go through these next ones. quickly, because it was, again, just your committees, and then now you want to make an argument to the whole field. They'll ask the, the publishers will ask you who your audience is, is it… Is it master's students in political science? Is it the wider public? Is it this? Is it that? And you're going to want to nail that down, and then write to… rewrite completely to those people, and those people normally aren't going to want to see all of my tables that were in my dissertation with statistics in them. You're gonna wanna cut the wrong reviews as they read and make it more of a narrative. You're gonna wanna throw all of the method stuff in the… Maybe footnotes, but, like, in the appendix entirely.

Elisa D’Amico this isn't, like, a journal article level of, like, robustness checks and rigor in that way. I just throw it all into appendices at the end of the book. That's completely fine. Again, find your narrative arc. your chapters, your whole… like, there should be, like, a plot you should be building towards something. It should not read in this, like, very dissertation-formulated, like, isolationist way. This is just from dissertation to a book. Book, I believe it is, is,

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Elisa D’Amico So these are some of the things that I got… feedback I got in my revisions, when I first initially, like, cold-sent my… my chapters out for, a first book prize award, and then also for this last version, I did not revise these chapters at all, and they knew it. And I said that in my… in my book prospectus, I was like, I realize that this… there needs to be some serious surgery to make this a book, and I have not done that yet, which you really shouldn't do. You should try to make some of these light revisions first. But they all said, like, said this. So my first reviewer was like, yeah, like, this is great, but it's still, like, we're still seeing the dissertation-style density. still read a lot like a doctoral thesis, should not replicate their dissertation chapters, but extract meaning. This manuscript reads like a dissertation, like, they all said this, and… still reads too much. Like, literally every reviewer I've ever had said this, and it's… it is because I didn't do anything before I sent them out, which maybe I should have, but that's okay.

Elisa D’Amico the framing should match the scope. These are just some other, like, notes that I think are probably applied to a lot of dissertation 2 book conversions, but I got, like, the title, and the synopsis parts, like, this great breadth and this great contribution, but then the chapters were more narrow, and so, like, I don't need to oversell it, like, I can sell the book exactly as is to the audience that is interested in the exact pathway, and I don't need to, like, have these, like, amazingly generalizable contributions if it's still, like, within immediate relevance. The other thing about not replicating the chapters, we want to know generalizable knowledge. We don't care about the empirical setup, like, pretty much at all. Even the plots and the way the results are reported should be, like, extremely accessible, and, like, I shouldn't be, like.

Elisa D’Amico bragging about my, like, methodological prowess in a ballpark, really. Also, another problem was that I finished my PhD, like. And I actually was 3 years ago, and… Two and a half years ago, I don't know. But by the time I sent it out for review last November, like, it had been, like, a long time, and a lot of my literature was now out of date. Like, there was amazing… there was an amazing book that came out that was super relevant to my book that I ended up having to do revisions to almost entirely, like. frame around and within. And… I think that this slide was also in the recent papers, actually, but… and so, like, that's… that's fine, but, like, I mean, again, I did not do this, but in hindsight, I would have made sure to, like.

Elisa D’Amico go back and, like, pull through some of the recent citations, sort of every time I sent it out, which I guess was only twice, but still. Define your audience honestly. So, at first, I was like, I want this book to be accessible to policymakers, and this and that, and scholars of all ages, and blah blah blah blah blah, when in reality, like, my book is probably going to be more of, like, a graduate seminar-type book. And fortunately, one of the reviewers and the editor really pushed me in this direction to type in… to tighten that up, and I think part of it is because I have this quantitative component. for these, yeah, this quantitative component, which just inherently makes it, like, a little bit less accessible, but then pushing me in this direction is really useful, and I would talk to the acquisitions editor about what they think the audience should be, because that would help… that will help a lot of your proposal framing.

Elisa D’Amico Results over methods, I kind of already said this, like, you should never read, like, you need to have a statistics test standard to be able to extract the interesting findings. And it also doesn't need to be a stats lesson in the book either, like, that's not what it's for. And… The reviewers will always be like, especially for some reason. Reviewers that review books will always be like, you need to talk about this and this, and they'll, like, list you, like, a thousand sources, and you should read them, and you should engage with them. Because they were sent to these reviewers for a reason, and they know the literature, and you want to know the literature, and you want to speak to the literature, so just do it. And think about the fact that your subfield experts will read it. So even a lot of the people you're speaking to in your journal articles, like, these are the people that will be, like, fully reading the book, cover to cover at the end of the day, and be like… and then tell their students, oh, have you read this book? This is similar to what you are interested in. So, like.

Elisa D’Amico Like, you're gonna have, like, these experts that know That they're gonna see if you're missing some major pieces in it. And so you wanna… and your name's gonna be on it, you wanna look. like you're part of the subfield equally when you're presenting that work. This is something we can't really control, but sometimes major events can, like, hurt the data collection field work process. Like, I know for Kasia, like, she wrote, like, a lot on Syria, and then the Syrian Civil War ended, so then you have, like, this window where you're like, okay, I need to deal with, like, the recent part of what happened, but that doesn't make the previous part obsolete, and this is something that you're gonna have to deal with, and you're gonna have to… talk to your editor about how to manage and things like this. Maybe Kasia has better advice.

Elisa D’Amico So, the way that the book process works, I talked about this a little bit before, but first we're gonna do a 5-10 page prospectus. It's gonna have all these pieces. Like I said, look at the Oxford University Press template, it's very universal. Talk to your acquisitions editors early. It's extremely common for you to, like, email them and set up a meeting with them at conferences, especially if you're on the job market. Like, this is something that many, many people do. Like, do not be afraid to do this. And they're nice, and they're, like, not doing anything else. They're, like, in the business of wanting to talk to you as well. So, almost always, if it's your first book, I kind of got away without doing this, but almost always, they're gonna want a full manuscript to review, Unless told otherwise, and again, I'll talk to you about my experience if you have questions, but… In these cases, I would take the path of least heat resistance and do just, like, the most bare minimum cleaning up, moving the technical stuff to the appendices like this before.

Elisa D’Amico And maybe reframing the intro and conclusion and contributions just a bit in the audience in this way. Just get some of the, maybe. tighten up some of the literature, things like this. Just, like, very, very few revisions. We do not need to, like, fully revise the whole manuscript. Just get it into a state where you can still, in your prospectus, be like, this is a working transition from the dissertation, and I realize there's lots to be done, but this is where we're at right now. And then… I'm, This is less common, but if you're in a place that's well-resourced or you have really good academic colleagues, you can have a book workshop or, like, a manuscript conference where you can have, like, I mean, maybe not even look at the full draft of your dissertation, but look at some chapters, or even your peers can take a chapter, and they kind of, like.

Elisa D’Amico review it and think about how, like, what it needs to do to be accessible to the public. You could use master students for this as well, if they would be interested, or if you're teaching, or if you want to give extra credit. Because this is, like, it's just really valuable to have an external set of eyes on it. And then… So the timeline from your dissertation descends to a published book, I, like, I looked this up and it said 3 to 5 years. That seems to be pretty accurate in my personal experience. I think. I'm 3-ish years? "…

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Elisa D’Amico like, yes, I've had some rounds of revisions, and yes, like, I keep getting, like, honing my plan, but still, it's… it takes a while, and sometimes it never happens. Especially if you have other life events happening, or other, like, routes or career types. And so if this is something you need for tenure, then you're going to want to start meeting with these acquisition editors as soon as possible. And… So, this last point, keep your dissertation embargoed if the press cares. this is almost never ever a thing. I guess you could ask, but it's almost never a thing, because most people are not in a position to be… like, already have a book contract by the time they're defending their thesis, so I wouldn't worry too much about it, but if you are talking to editors early enough.

Elisa D’Amico For this, you might as well ask. So what I did was I submitted my dissertation for the Oxford University Press Early Career Researcher First Book Prize, and they only asked for two chapters. So this is the way I kind of got around having to submit a full manuscript. They have it annually for Humanities and Social Sciences. There's 10 winners a year, and what's amazing about this, so you should always be applying for it every year, is that they publish fully open access, plus a hardback. Like, they, like, waive all of these fees. And it's that… it's within 6 years of your first academic appointment, so this is… like, you have a window of time, but this… I would apply for every year, unless they say otherwise. I only applied for it once, and then I went to Cambridge University Press.

Elisa D’Amico with their comments, I got to, like, the second or third round when it went under review, so thankfully I did get the reviewer feedback. Not everybody gets that, and because I already had that feedback in hand, I pretty much wrote a revision memo. included that in my perspectives, and then sent that out to the new editors. So, like, clearly, I had already gotten to a certain stage, and then I had a round of edits, or of reviews, that I then thought about carefully, and that set me up. to be in a better position to send it out to new editors that then didn't feel like they needed to see the full manuscript, so I got really lucky with that. Also, with the different conferences, there's a first book prize. You want to, apply for all of these, but you also want to apply for the dissertation prizes, because if you have dissertation prizes, then book editors are going to think that that looks good, and be more likely to be like, oh, this must be really good work.

Elisa D’Amico If it's so independently, like, selected. Yeah, so have your… have your friends or chair nominate you. Yeah, I already said that. Okay, I think this is it. So… decide book versus article based on your project and field. It's completely okay to do both. You don't have to have all of your articles pushed out by the time you graduate. In fact, that's less than most common. And then a book is a longer haul, but you're going to want to make sure that you're creating your research pipeline to get some publications Along the way, no matter what. And doing both the scary band Cummins. And then, of course for articles, just send it where… in the body of literature that you're speaking to. Your first book. Does well at academic presses, but if not, at least peer-reviewed presses.

Elisa D’Amico And… And then… Yeah, you need to publicly completely rewrite your article from a chapter unless you do the article route first, which I would kind of recommend. It just depends, again, if you're starting with the article route or the book route. And then… The book from a dissertation is a new audience. Also, it's tricky because you've just learned how to sell to, like, the academic that's, like, very rigorous and wants you to get through, like, peer-reviewed journal level of, like, rigor and evidence base, and then they were like, oh no, now do the opposite and strip it down and make it accessible and, like. and make it accessible for non-exposed, the public, and this and that. And so, like, this is, like, undoing some of that learning, and it's just, like, a major reorganizational feat. look up all your prizes for dissertations and books, they're normally once a year, and like I said, I… the Oxford one only asks for two chapters, so if you're gonna do some major revisions.

Elisa D’Amico then you may have to put them into chapters and maybe get those in, like, really good shape, and then apply for them for the next 6 years, I guess, for the OUP one. But again, like, the way I used it was that I got really, really good feedback, and then I just reshaped it and sent it to another editor that I had spoken with in the past. Okay. I'm gonna stop there.